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 6315

I'm buying a desktop pc in september.
pic is the components. for the case and AIO I'll see later.
Is it good ?

 6317

900 euro is a bit much to spend on a 7900xt, you should be able to find one for closer to 800

 6318

>>6317
I live in the communist regime known as France so I don't have much choice compared to bug-man land over the Rhine. Materiel.net is a trusty website and I refuse to buy from amasoy.

 6319

>5800x
failerald get a 5800x3d instead
>gaming motherboard
failerald #2 just get a B450M
>60hz monitor
omega failerald

 6320

>>6319
the 60hz monitor is for watching movies, the LG one is for gaming. Gonna change it though it's not available anymore.
5800X3D is expensive as fuck. Which motherboard would you recommand ? it's my first time building my own pc so i'm still retarded

 6321

And are curved screen a meme ? A friend has one and says it's good but idk

 6322

>>6320
>it's not available anymore
nvm i'm just illiterate it still is available, however i found another good one, the GB2770QSU by iiyama

 6323

>>6321
meme

 6331

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>>6315
>samsung evo
just use a cheap 128-512G SATA SSD as boot drive, ideally kingston or samsung
for storage you'll be using HDDs anyway
try to get SAS HDDs, 15K RPM SAS HDDs are very cheap and very fucking fast, especially if you use RAID, and they don't randomly fucking die like SSDs.
>logitech keyboard
get an IBM Model M (the original one), or if youre too poor to afford that and want a hecking soyper key, unicomp makes clones with super keys and if you want, an USB controller too so you don't need a PS/2 adapter
>radeon
get a GTX 780ti for <100$, all modern garbage GPUs are literally scam and all you would use them for is running proprietary modern garbage games and AI bullshit, its a money sink.
besides, you can't even use any of those new GPUs without proprietary abandonware drivers that will break in 5 years and wont work on non-approved operating systems like openBSD or TempleOS kek, enjoy being locked in to winkike and lunix (maybe freeBSD) forever
>AOC 24B1H
overpriced hot steaming garbage, get a cheap CRT monitor from the dumpster, or spend 100-300$ on a high quality trinitron (or trinitron clone), dont even get me started on how awesome they look and how hard they BTFO even the best OLED monitors in nearly all aspects
>b-but muh vga le bad
DVI-A is analog video, the connector is different but the signals are the same, a DVI-A/DVI-I to VGA adapter/cable costs 5-10$, and the 780ti has a DVI-I port, also DP to VGA converters exist and can actually give you higher quality than a real VGA port in some cases, that includes less JPEG-y quality, higher resolutions, and higher refresh rates
my CRT can do up to 3200x1800@60Hz or normal resolutions (like 1440x1080) at 160Hz, and its 21 years old!
HDMI and DP were still shitting their pants compared to VGA, and still do today.
also holy fucking overpriced, you can build 2 PCs and buy a CRT for just the GPU price
>another overpriced flatscreen piece of shit
get a second CRT or a cheap dumpster LCD for <20$ if you don't care about quality much when doing work, so you don't waste all the electricity for your fancy CRT and don't waste its life time just to read text and shitpost on internet forums, use your CRT for what its best at, playing video games and watching videos.
i really dont understand why gamerfags aren't all using CRTs, the motion blur is literally non existent and you can use any refresh rate from 60 to 160hz, as well as any resolution you want. dont need much detail but want to max out framerates? 800x600 or 480x480 and 160Hz, there you go
want to watch some video at its native res and refresh rate as accurately as possible without wasting performance or interpolating the framerate or resolution?
go ahead, LCDs can't do this.
>215$ for a PSU
ehh, sure, corsair is usually overpriced and i recommend superflower or be-quiet PSUs, but seriously, don't cheap out on PSUs, you'll regret doing that.
you can (and should) buy used PSUs off ebay, spend 50-100$ on a 200W gold PSU
>muh ayymd
scam, proprietary garbage, will refuse to boot if you fuck around with it, designed to break, literal troon garbage
get an old server board and buy 2 opteron 63XX/62XX or 43XX/42XX CPUs, youll end up with 16-32 cores and theyre very cheap (10-30$ per CPU)
>overpriced modern garbage ASUS motherboard
ASUS KCMA-D8 if you want a budget system with up to 64/128 gigs of ram
ASUS KGPE-D16 if you want up to 128/256 gigs of ram and 32 CPU cores
both of them are server boards and not actually meant for playing gaymes, and they dont have onboard soundcards, wifi, or other fancy shit but theyre usually garbage anyway and cant be swapped out. get an audigy 4 and use ethernet, or any cheap ath9k wifi dongle/card if you want kikefi for whatever reason
seriously, the audigy 4 sounds great, and youll get it for 15-20$ on ebay.
and no, you won't get modern nvme/msata zoomer bullshit or DDR4, nobody needs this overpriced failure-prone nonsense.
what you get is DDR3 ECC RAM at 1600MHz, that will always work no matter what. if it fails, since its a server board it will actually tell you what fails instead of just ACKing and telling you "lol fuck you go figure it out and spend 2 hours troubleshooting it with trial and error" like meme gaeming hardware for consoomer trannies.
>RGB RAM
holy fucking shit are you retarded?
why would you spend 150$ on this shit?
64 gigs of 8x8GiB 1600MHz DDR3 ECC RAM from kingston or hynix cost 50$ on ebay (or at least it did when i bought mine a few months ago)
why do faggots love RGB so much?
its gay, it wastes electricity, it distracts you, it wastes performance, and you pay extra just for some gay LEDs, and usually need proprietary wintoddler shitware to control it anyway.
>>6318
buy used shit from ebay like a white man
>>6319
both soy
yes gaming motherboards are soy, but that one is also garbage
you dont need more than 80hz when gaming, the only reason to use more than 60hz is if your eyes are too good. you can easily test if you actually need 70/80/whatever-Hz by just running your CRT at that refresh rate and displaying a very white/bright image. if you see flicker, turn up the refresh rate until you don't see flicker anymore, anything past that sweet spot is just wasting performance and may even lead to framedrops. if youre fine with flicker and rather have a very liquid, sharp, and good looking image with zero motion blur, or just have potato hardware that would get framedrops, set your CRT to 60-70hz.
>>6321
my screens are either entirely flat or curved outward, seethe harder gaymer troon.
>>6320
for watching movies you want a CRT since you can set the refresh rate to exactly the multiples of 24/23.976/whatever Hz so you don't waste performance or have a crappy image from framerate interpolation. the same goes for resolution, upscaling shit from 480p to 1080p looks like ass, but watching it at native 480p looks awesome. in fact, i even downscale 1080p movies to 480p just because it looks better, especially cartoons that were drawn less sharp.
>>6320
KCMA-D8, or literally just get a thinkpad and hook it up to a dock if you don't care about performance and just want a computer to shitpost on, play old games on, and watch some movies on.
>>6321
modern flat curved screens for GAEMING are a meme, curved CRTs aren't, but i prefer flat trinitron CRTs.
oh yea and install libreboot on your motherboard obviously, because you DONT want to get fucked by new ""vulnerabilities"" (backdoors) found in proprietary bioses, especially ASUS garbage has been affected by this.
dont even get me started on how terrible proprietary software (especially firmware) is, you can't even make a fucking bios backup anymore, thats how bad it is.
mounted your EFI vars as R/W and accidentally overwrote them somehow?
TOO BAD! you cant make a backup and cant unbrick now, you have an expensive paperweight.
want to flash a backup from someone else on the internet or from another board that is exactly the same model?
too bad, you cant. the IME or PSP will PREVENT you from doing so and either refuse to boot or shut down after 30 minutes due to "anti theft", or something else (like TPM, JewEFI, "soycure" boot, etc...) will ACK and refuse to boot.
modern UEFI images are unique per board unit so youre basically fucked and have to buy a new motherboard if you run rm -rf /* on accident KEK
oh and you can't compile your own firmware, you cant customize it, you will experience bugs the board vendor doesnt care about and refuses to fix (like not being able to boot off an external hard drive or any sata port that isnt sata0, bios randomly locking up, hotswap not working, USB keyboards not working, etc...), and there is absolutely nothing you can do about it other than to buy a new motherboard.
did i already mention all the leaks and 'vulnerabilities' people are chimping out about?
theyre shitting their pants over source code leaks because now every script kiddo can backdoor them, not just asus, intel, amd, the nsa, the cia, the fbi, mossad, shinbet, your mom, etc...

 6332

>>6321
u only need curve for +32 inch

 6333

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>>6331
and heres a demonstration why flatscreens fucking suck

 6334

>>6332
also this, and too large monitors suck for gaming anyway because your field of view is optimal right in front of your eyes.

 6335

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>>6331
did i tell you how insane the I/O on those server boards is?
you get 14 SATA/SAS ports, serial, PS/2, 2 ethernet ports, and all the other shit you could ever want.

 6336

>>6315
you forgot your case, either pick one up from the dumpster or weld a few bars and plates together, then drill screw holes. i HATE closed cases, open cases are so much easier to work on, are less prone to breaking, are cheaper, and have way better airflow.
also what about your heat sink, fans, etc...?
for thermal paste i recommend arctic MX-4 as budget paste or thermal grizzly kryonaut if you want the best stuff youll get, its just a bit more expensive but if youre gonna spend hundreds of shekels on a computer and want 5-10°C less, its absolutely worth it.
just dont waste it when youre putting together a test bench or something, either just slap the cooler on it without paste, use toothpaste, or use 2$ chinkshit paste, its not gonna fry your CPU if youre just testing shit.
and no, you can't use toothpaste or cum as actual thermal paste for a production system, it will dry out and actually conduct worse than slapping the cooler on without any thermal conduction material, the thing in these things that actually conducts is water.

 6337

ignore all schizobabble itt

 6338

>>6334
large monitors are kino for casual gayming

 6339

>>6337
youre the only schizo here, take your meds.

 6340

>>6338
i have been using a 4K TV for playing games, i can tell you that they're not. what you want is a high resolution, not a large monitor.
at least for most games you want a high resolution, some games are fine at 480p, like half life, doom, and old console games.

 6341

>>6340
literally the opposite, u only need 4k if u go 32inch+ to maintain dpi

 6342

https://web.archive.org/web/20210813021809/https://www.designcompaniesranked.com/resources/is-this-retina/
this is good when deciding what monitor resolution to get, THOUGH do keep in mind that ideal viewing distance (which you will probably gravitate towards) increases with screen size, so you should use the size of the monitor you already when comparing resolutions

 6343

>>6341
absolutely nobody needs 4k, if you have a tiny 4k display or sit far away from a TV you won't see the difference between that ant 1080p.
if you sit right in front of a 4k monitor you will get a headache because you don't even have all of it in your field of view, and its a pain in the ass to move your eyes around that far, you HAVE to move your head.
>>6342
>muh retina
all CRTs are "retina displays" because they dont hvave pixels.
>resolution
lol do lcd cucks really lock themselves in to only one resolution and refresh rate?
a CRT can display anything from 480p up to even 4K perfectly fine, it only needs to be in the right frequency range.
so 4K@160Hz will cause you trouble if you don't use interlacing, but 1280x960@160 or 4K@60 will most likely work fine.

 6345

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>all CRTs are "retina displays" because they dont hvave pixels.

 6346

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>>6345
yes, they have little phosphorus dots/stripes that get illuminated, and you have to go VERY close to it to actually see them. i mean close-close, either you get a magnifying glass or a microscope, it depends on the CRT.

 6347

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>>6333
>>6346
Sent 10 of those fuckers to the landfill today.

 6348

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>>6333
>>6346
Seethe, fuckers. They are going to get smashed and smelted into some chink trinkets.

 6349

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>>6333
>>6346
Yeah, and this flat screen, 19 inch 1920x1440 monitor is also getting crushed. I took a screwdriver to it's screen just before disposing, so you faggots don't even think about recovering it.

 6352

>>6347
>>6348
>>6349
nice copypaste from jewgle images
>durr hurr look at me im retarded and throw away money by breaking and trashing CRTs i could sell to retroomers for 500$, hurr durr
>actually just copypastes shit from jewgle images
kek, youre just angry that you cant afford a good CRT, chud.
>1920x1440 monitor
holy mental retardation, CRTs don't have fixed resolutions you idiot.
also its not a "flat screen", its an aperture grill (aka trinitron) crt, theyre still curved horizontally and only the glass is flat.

 6353

>>6347
retard that's illegal. you can't throw away CRTs in the landfill. CRT glass is crystal (high lead content).

 6360

>>6353
>wah wah wah you cant just dump dangerous toxic waste somewhere in the forest
who cares?
not my problem.
also throwing away broken CRTs is retarded, you can use their electron guns to build xray cannons and kill people with them, all you need is a few wires, solder, insulation like epoxy (optional but recommended), a 40kv transformer (e.g. from an old microwave), and some box to hide all of this in, ideally above some lamp hanging from the ceiling

 6366

>>6360
>landfill
>forest
Not the same thing. The dump (landfill) will not let you in if you are carrying prohibited cargo.

 6378

>>6331
This guy is a retard, Kingston is awful and CRTs are for autists

 6379

>>6331
This guy is a retard, Kingston is awful and CRTs are for autists

 6380

>>6366
i use the forest as a landfill doe
>>6378
i havent had any bad experiences with kingston or samsung ssds/ram, or hynix ram
i HAVE had a lot of bad experiences with WD and seagate HDDs/SSDs, and corsair ram.

 6402

>>6380
I don't think you understand what the word "landfill" means.

 6406

So does that mean the component list good ?

 6407

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>>6406
you don't even have 16 serial ports. completely unusable. how are you supposed going to hook up your 16 serial mice without 16 serial ports?

 6408

>>6407
what's a mouse ? I only have a keyboard

 6409

>>6331
>for storage you'll be using HDDs anyway
for storage i thought of doing a nvme + 4t hdd, but i have some heavy games like star citizen, starfield and others. and I can always expand, while if it's too small i'm fucked.
>get a cheap CRT monitor
my desk is too flimsy and i don't wanna buy a new one, it'll break with the CRT, + CRT is a meme
>DVI-A is analog video
too long not reading
>get a second CRT
i'm just gonna watch movies on them
>get an old server board
I am mostly gonna game on this, like 90% of the time. Most complicated thing i'll do on this is install gentoo and i'm not even sure.
and for RGB RAM yes the point is that i get distracted. I want lights and stuff that looks cool. not gonna read the rest though

 6410

>>6331
Also i forgot,
>buy used shit from ebay like a white man
I'm a jew

 6411

>>6337
funnier to bait

 6413

All the CReTards here make me sick. KYS please

 6430

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>>6402
i do, and i use the forest as landfill

 6435

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>>6407
this, but you only need 2 serial ports and 2 PS/2 ports
the KGPE-D16 and KCMA-D8 have both of those, and i unironically use serial on my server because ssh is a backdoor i disabled.
>>6408
its that faggot thing wintoddlers use instead of a trackpoint, the thing meant to be used only in gimp and video games, which wintoddlers for some reason use to control the entire OS
>>6409
>im fucked if its too small wah wah i cant expand
you can always throw in another HDD, if you have enough sata ports that is...
so buy a board with enough sata ports, or PCI to SATA cards exist if youre running out of sata ports and like me, have 14 hard drives hooked up to your machine at once to store 90tb of torrents and 'p
>my desk is too flimsy
kek what?
>new one
you wont find new ones anymore
>crts are memes
theyre good memes doe, i see no reason not to use a crt other than weight, price, difficulty to find one, power consumption, and you being poorfag who cant afford a gpu with VGA/DVI-A ports
>durr hurr not reading
read it you fucking zoomer
>im just gonna watch movies on the second monitor
why would you need 2 monitors to watch movies?
thats retarded you know, just change your CRTs res and refresh rate to fit your movie.
its not like you watch a movie while shitposting at once, only mentally ill people like myself do this
>muh gaymes
>installing gentoo is complicated
installing libreboot is easy
you need to git clone lbmk, install the dependencies (it has a makefile for that), install bdf-unifont manually if it isnt installed already because its missing from some repos, and ./build boot roms x200_8mb t400_4mb ... (just list the roms you want)
or run make to build all of them
>muh lights are LE GOOD i wanna be distracted
youre gay then, rgb is for trannies
...are you a tranny?
>>6410
im also jewish
>>6413
cope lcd tranny, youre just mad about your motion blur ruining your games LOL
seriously chud, go try playing games with a lot of rapid movement on a CRT, you will see the difference and realize how fucking garbage flatscreens really are.

 6439

>>6331
holy fucking autism



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