/tech/ - Technology

>>6754
>install windows
>partition wizard fucking breaks on the installer
>try again
>finally works
>no drivers for graphics
>OOBE is the worst fucking niggerware imaginable
>requires (((microshit account)))
>doesn't update in the OOBE
>sell your soul to bill gates (required)
>no useful shit preinstalled
>stuck with the retard explorer 11
>ADS IN YOUR START MENU
>windows update makes you hang on boot on your workstation laptop
>"duah durrr needs this dll no dependancy resolution in a fucking OS supported in 2023
>needs unsupported tweaks the OS is actively hostile to in order to use your computer fully
>has a fucking activation system
compared to UNIX, the OS that enterprises, datacenters, this goddamn site, and supercomputers use
>obtain computer
>install OS how you want, or have a preinstalled OS that works if you're a mac nigga
>OOBE actually thinks about user, and not satan
>supported local account setup
>updates on install
>get to desktop, use built in browser cause it doesn't suck, or easily switch browser
>drivers built into kernel, or easily installable through UI, with no bullshit
>just get program, the real operating system will make it work for you, installing dependancies, dealing with app bundles and providing a central environment to install software as well as your own packages
>the fucking updater doesn't bootloop your computer
>you can resize windows without your motherfucking eyes bleeding cause GDI is some satanic bullshit retarded UI framework that doesn't play well with your screen
which would you choose, chuds?

>>6755
UNIX is good for enterprise, Windows is good for personal use, that's it, I hate how freetards insist on using server software for personal use and then get surprised when nothing works on it

>>6756
You're an idiot
I'm typing this message on a Unixlike, if you're using a smartphone, you use a Unixlike daily
Unix workstations are where everyone did their multimedia. Macs exist, and they sure as hell don't use Windows

>>6760
wintoddlers live in their own fantasy world

>>6756
Actually, Windows is for Enterprise. UNIX is for datacenter. Big difference. UNIX lacks active directory, ACLs, and group policy by design, making it unsuitable for enterprise.

>>6770
winGODS actually get work done and don't have to worry about things randomly breaking

>>6772
same goes for me
linux isnt anything like the autistic caricature of it that lives rent free in your head

>95% of the world still uses Windows in some form
>companies too poor to pay for server licenses
yeah, as i said, these people live in their own fantasy world
they're the troons of computing

>>6754
>no drivers to set up
are you talking about GNU?
because from what i remember you have to run 20 .exe malware pieces of shit each time you reinstall that garbage, GNU has all your drivers in your kernel already
>no breakage every update
youre talking about GNU again, because winglows breaks every update
>no screen tearing
Section "Device"
Identifier "Intel Graphics"
Driver "intel"
Option "TearFree" "true"
EndSection
problem solved, wintoddlers have screen tearing anyway
>runs every program
it doesnt even have a basic command line, good fucking luck doing anything with it other than running a shitty proprietary web browser and proprietary games lol
can you run xrandr?
can you run quickmedia?
what about weechat, strawberry player, bash, and qemu?
do wintoddlers seriously have to cope with virtualcucks? LOL
you cant run any of this shit, GNU runs 90% of all wintoddler software flawlessly if you wanted to run any of that garbage for whatever reason
in fact, wine has BETTER backwards compatibility with old winkike shit than the latest real winkike.
>j-just werks!1!
until it doesn't anymore and you have to reinstall the whole thing because you have no idea how computers work and can't figure out how to fix it, since there is no documentation easily available and actually readable by normal human beings who don't work at microsoft
>>6755
>b-b-but muh LTSC cope
>muh no pre installed browser
wintoddlers dont even have a fucking package manager, how do they install a web browser if they can't download a hecking .exe?
if their gui shit breaks (which it does a lot) they cant even reinstall it and have to reinstall the entire OS with a CD or usb drive because winshit doesn't just allow you to pacman -S --overwrite "*" xorg xorg-drivers or anything
GNU even works on broken hard drives, thanks to ext4
wintoddlers only get 3 file systems KEEEEEEEEEEEK, enjoy your NTFS garbage
even crapples iShit file system is better than this

>>6756
>UNIX is for professional enterprises who actually know what theyre doing
>winkike is for consoomer retards who dont know how to use a computer
exactly, i couldn't have said it better.
>insist on using server software for personal use and cry if it breaks
if you know what youre doing it doesn't randomly break, all errors are caused by the user, unlike on winglows where it breaks by itself and you have no idea what happened or how to fix it and end up having to reinstall the whole operating system
>>6760
android iShit and crapple is just UNIX dumbed down for normies who have no idea what theyre doing and can't be trusted with root privileges or actual control over 'their' computers because they would break everything
>>6772
>actually get work done
like what, opening a web browser and playing proprietary games because the thing would bluescreen in the middle of a presentation or just randomly start updates even tho you "disabled" them, forcing you to wait 30 minutes and reboot?
>>6773
96.3% of the entire internet relies on GNU+Linux, pal
its literally only retards who dont know how to use a computer and buy pre built garbage with garbage operating systems pre installed, and then pay 150$ extra for the hecking loicense
this is the only group of people that actually uses winglows
>99% of all software
lol no, you cant even fucking run nginx on winglows
wanna set a custom refresh rate on your monitor and a custom resolution?
lol not our problem, enjoy your one resolution and 60hz
https://answers.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/forum/all/my-144hz-monitor-is-stuck-at-60hz/90dd40ee-bb65-4064-b3f0-57e77cec3a10
look at this insane BTFOing, wintoddlers dont even get xrandr
want to bind keyboard shortcuts for enabling/disabling monitors and switch resolutions/refresh rates?
you cant, have fun clicking around in a gui and closing any programs before doing so to prevent scaling from cucking you
winglows has poor drivers and literally bluescreens because of poorly written "3rd party drivers, since wintards need to install a driver for a literal fucking keyboard or soundcard; MANUALLY
>l-lets just move the drivers into userspace then to prevent breakage and cripple 50% of their performance
very good design, microsoft!
how about you fix drivers?
oh wait you CANT because theyre proprietary and written by random pajeets who have no clue what theyre doing!
on GNU you build all your drivers into your kernel, and kick out what you dont need, my kernel is 20 megs in size, my entire operating system is just about a gig while "your" garbage takes up 60 gigs by itself, without extra programs and without a functional terminal!
you dont even have a proper init system
you have no daemons
you have no permission system
you have no forks
you will never be a real operating system.
you are a childs toy twisted by mentally ill pajeets into a mockery of computers perfection
your release will become EOL and your code will go back to dust along with all the "i'll just keep using winkike <insert latest EOL version> forever" cucks who will eventually move on to the next version once that becomes EOL because it sucked back then, but magically "got fixed" by microsoft with 200 more spyware updates
this is your fate, this is what you chose, there is no turning back.

>>6776
>it doesnt even have a basic command line
marge

bindsym $mod+Shift+Control+t output LVDS-1 mode --custom 640x480@60Hz
bindsym $mod+Shift+t output $MON0 disable, output $MON1 disable, output LVDS-1 enable resolution --custom 1280x800@60Hz
bindsym $mod+Shift+u output LVDS-1 disable, output $MON0 enable resolution --custom 1600x1200@80hz position 1024 0, output $MON1 enable resolution --custom 1024x768@80Hz position 0 0
bindsym $mod+Shift+i output $MON0 mode --custom 640x480@80hz
bindsym $mod+Shift+Control+i output $MON0 mode --custom 640x480@60hz
bindsym $mod+Shift+y output $MON1 mode --custom 640x480@80hz position 384 0
bindsym $mod+Shift+Control+y output $MON1 mode --custom 640x480@60hz position 384 0
bindsym $mod+Shift+o output $MON1 disable
bindsym $mod+Shift+p output $MON0 disable
does this make you jealous, wintoddler?

>>6778
list your PCI devices, USB devices, and your firmware version/type each with one command

>>6775
THIS RTRD USES WINDOWS SERVER

>>6776
>>no drivers to set up
>are you talking about GNU?
>because from what i remember you have to run 20 .exe malware pieces of shit each time you reinstall that garbage, GNU has all your drivers in your kernel already
It isn't 2001 anymore, windows will automatically install the needed drivers.
on Linux my keyboard driver is out of tree and I had to manually compile it

>>runs every program
>it doesnt even have a basic command line, good fucking luck doing anything with it other than running a shitty proprietary web browser and proprietary games lol
Where do you get that windows doesn't have a command line?
>can you run xrandr?
No because Windows uses DWM not X11.
>can you run quickmedia?
Never heard of it.
>what about weechat, strawberry player, bash, and qemu?
Never heard of those except bash and qemu. Bash is for Linux and therefore doesn't run on Windows (just like how cmd won't run on UNIX). Qemu is fully supported on windows.
>do wintoddlers seriously have to cope with virtualcucks? LOL
No.

>>6780
>list your PCI devices, USB devices, and your firmware version/type each with one command
devmgmt.msc

>>6776
>wintards don't have a default browser
they do, it's just shit, unlike whatever the fuck version of Firefox or epiphany or whatever your distro ships

>>6787
epiphany is worse than IE geg

>>6777
>android iShit and crapple is just UNIX dumbed down for normies who have no idea what theyre doing and can't be trusted with root privileges or actual control over 'their' computers because they would break everything
tsmt, but at least it's not the userland that thinks loading arbitrary fonts in kernel mode is a reasonable thing to do ?

>>6788
are you being a good bing today?

>>6790
are you enjoying your 2fps browser?

>>6793
at least it's not bingshit

>>6802
I'm not shilling bing retard

edge is, dumbfuck

>>6801
Besides, if for some reason you want to pay for open source... for some reason. SuSE and RHEL exist.

>>6786
>this isnt 2001 anymore
well GNU always had drivers pre installed, and WOW, winglows just randomly downloads proprietary sketchy drivers off the internet and installs them without your consent?
this is totally not something malware would do, sure...
>muh keyboard driver is out of tree
what the fuck are you smoking?
what gay keyboard do you have??
some zoomer RGB bullshit?
KEK
>manually compile
dkms exists for a reason you know
>waaaah b-but muh cmd.exe
you cant pipe shit around, the syntax is UpperCaseSensitive_Bullshit and just pure mental illness, commands to do basic shit are unintuitive and retarded, and you don't even have a manual
>winglows uses DWM
what?
DWM uses X11 goodsir, and you can actually fuck around with DWM, unlike winkike garbage.
does winkike even have any equivalent to xrandr so you can bind that shit to keyboard shortcuts?
CAN IT EVEN BIND COMMANDS TO KEYBOARD SHORTCUTS?
>never heard of it
allow me to shill gigachad software...
the best 4cuck, matrix, peertube, jewtube, lbry, etc... client that single-handedly BTFOs everything else, its also good for watching TV shows and movies with watch progress indication, sorting, etc...
its pure C++ and X11 with openGL, and its being rewritten in zig with xrender to get the RAM usage down to <5MiB or so while having tiny binary sizes
currently the binary is 3.5 megs, but it will become much smaller than that.
its the fastest matrix/jewtube/etc... client i have seen so far, and 100% keyboard controlled
https://git.dec05eba.com/QuickMedia
tl;dr just try it out and see for yourself
>never heard of weechat
best irc client
>bash is for lunix hurr durr
how does it run on macOS then?
powershell is fucking retarded, bash is the least shit scripting language and shell we have
>qemu is fully supported on winglows
how do you even install it, can wintoddlers even compile it?
or do you have to rely on real operating systems to compile it for you like a baby?
does it even support kvm?
>commands with a file extension
do wintoddlers really...
and what exactly does it print out?
>>6787
i was talking about LTSC because some retard claimed that it "doesnt have pre installed hecking edge and is therefore better" or something
>whatever your distro ships
my distro doesnt ship any browser, i have a package manager and curl
unlike wintoddlers, i don't need a web browser and a fucking gui to install another web browser because GNU isnt retarded.
pacman -S lynx
there you go
>>6788
literally who?
nobody uses that shit, i use elinks and iceweasel
>>6789
kek
>>6793
my web browser runs at smooth 160fps with vsync, meanwhile wintoddlers don't even have a terminal that can do more than 2fps LOL
ON A FUCKING GAMING COMPUTER
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/4129
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362
>>6801
[fed@cia ~] ~> uptime
22:30:23 up 43 days, 22:16, 1 user, load average: 0.32, 0.24, 0.23
>>6805
both of them are proprietary because they ship proprietary bullshit in their repos, kernel, etc...
>inb4 BUT ITS LE HECKING OPEN SOROS JUST FORK IT NOOOOO
according to your logic, a cup of tea poisoned with a few drops of poison that will kill you is "just a normal cup of tea" and not poison
you could say that its "poisoned free software" because it contains proprietary software, but the end result will be the same, you get poisoned and die.
also, RHEL just became completely proprietary, its not even "open sores" anymore.

>>6808
>winglows just randomly downloads proprietary sketchy drivers off the internet and installs them without your consent?
They are signed and compiled by MS, if you consider that sketchy then yes.

>>6808
homie we're talking about windumbfucks, 'install what you want' distros are an alien concept to them, and so is LibreBoot, pointing out the fact companies pay for Linux for some reason BTFOs the rtrd that says they only use Linux cause they can't pay for Windows Server... despite the fact Windows is about the most retarded OS for a server one could use, oh and it can't survive uptime, unlike the box that's on 43 days now

>>6809
why yes I do, cause MS update bullshit deletes my files
oh and it gets shit off manufacturer websites too, and sketchy shit

red hat glowie trannyware or windows nt, what a hard decision to make

>>6812
did you just say the same fucking product twice? jesus christ wintoddlers are delirious, I guess they've figured out how to be a fucking newborn and joe biden at the same time

>>6808
>my web browser runs at smooth 160fps with vsync
I'm talking about epiphany not Firefox.

>>muh keyboard driver is out of tree
>what the fuck are you smoking?
>what gay keyboard do you have??
ah yes the problem is that my keyboard is gay, not that linux sucks.

>>waaaah b-but muh cmd.exe
>you cant pipe shit around, the syntax is UpperCaseSensitive_Bullshit and just pure mental illness, commands to do basic shit are unintuitive and retarded
you are mixing up cmd and powershell. And both have pipes FYI.
>and you don't even have a manual
Microsoft has objectively better documentation than anything linux has.

>>winglows uses DWM
>what?
DWM is the name of Windows' window manager.
>DWM uses X11
marge

>>qemu is fully supported on winglows
>how do you even install it, can wintoddlers even compile it?
you can compile it with vc++ if I recall correctly.
>does it even support kvm?
no because KVM is a Lunix kernel component. The windows equivalent is Hyper-V.

>>6809
and you can absolutely trust M$, sure
there are also no third party drivers or anything, or are you saying that you can ONLY have drivers that are (((approved))) by M$?
https://theintercept.com/2015/12/28/recently-bought-a-windows-computer-microsoft-probably-has-your-encryption-key/
also lol, enjoy your backdoors
>>6810
wintoddlers are niggers who dont know how to use a computer, they are too stupid and niggerlicious to do anything by themselves, they have to rely on (((someone else))) to do it for them
>freedom and choice is an alien concept to them
kek
is winshit seriously not able to run for more than a month straight without rebooting?
LOL
my record uptime was 1.5 years or so but my power went out at some point :(
>>6812
or install debian like a white man, stop being retarded
the only reason why companies pay for RHEL is that time equals money in a business, they dont pay for the OS, they pay for 24/7 support and the guarantee that it works in case they actually do manage to fuck something up
>>6814
whats that even, wasnt that another guhnome meme webkit piece of shit?
>my keyboard is gay and lunix doesnt suck
exactly, i have NEVER seen a keyboard that doesnt just work out of the box with GNU, i mean, keyboards are supposed to work in fucking BIOSes. if your trash doesnt work in a BIOS, its effectively e-waste.
>im mixing up powershit and cmd
>both have pipes
why have i never seen a single wintoddler pipe in my entire life?
>microshaft has better documentation than lunix has
how do you create a swap file?
>wintoddler window manager is called dwm
kek, i thought you meant http://dwm.suckless.org/
>vc++
do wintoddlers seriously compile shit with a gui, manually?
LOL
enjoy having to install 20 gigs of proprietary garbage to compile a 2 meg program
>hyper-v
how is it performance wise, and does qemu support it?

>>6808
>GNU had drivers
What? Hurd has hardware support? GNU is a collection of userspace software. It doesn't have any drivers. Microsoft enforces signed drivers.
>muh keyboard driver is out of tree
Linux doesn't have filter drivers of any kind. If you need to make a slight modification to a driver you need a whole new driver.
>cmd
>UpperCaseSensitive_Bullshit
Windows is case insensitive while UNIX is case sensitive.
>DWM uses X11
You should Google things before saying retarded things like this. DWM is the compositing window manager for Windows Aero and later.
>does winkike even have any equivalent to xrandr
I think you meant to say xmodmap. xrandr controls the screen resolution. Autohotkey is superior to xmodmap.
>best irc client
debatable
>powershell is fucking retarded
No it's far better and more powerful than bash. Bash is so crap that people call python, awk, sed, perl, etc. from inside bash to do operations.
>how do you even install it, can wintoddlers even compile it?
Yes you can compile QEMU on windows. You can also download the binary for QEMU. QEMU will continue to suck until they implement a real VGA driver that supports blinking text and MC6845 operations. QEMU supports Intel HAXM or Hyper-V WHPX acceleration under Windows.
>GNU isnt retarded
GNU = extend embrace extinguish. Forking GNU software is evil according to stallman because it means that the FSF/GNU Project, and therefore he, doesn't have absolute control over the decisions and that may mean that he can't put political messages into manpages. Interesting how the people who have worked with stallman want him gone and the people who haven't want him to stay.
>don't even have a terminal that can do more than 2fps
Use the conhost terminal. The terminal color issue only applies to Windows Terminal, which is FREE AND OPEN SORES SOFTWARE. People have explained this to you before.
>uptime
pic rel
>RHEL
RHEL does most kernel development. No RedHat, no kernel.

>>6816
>how do you create a swap file?
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/troubleshoot/windows-client/performance/introduction-to-the-page-file
>>vc++
>do wintoddlers seriously compile shit with a gui, manually?
Visual c++ does not have a GUI despite its name.
>>hyper-v
>how is it performance wise, and does qemu support it?
KVM and hyperv are roughly the same performance wise as they both use your CPU's virtualization features.
Qemu does not support it.

>>6816
>is winshit seriously not able to run for more than a month straight without rebooting?
I have only had a Windows server crash a few times. I have had Linux crash due to bad drivers, watchdog errors, and logs eating up the entire hard drive, freezing the system, because Linux doesn't have a centralized logging system like Windows.
>do wintoddlers seriously compile shit with a gui, manually?
MSVC doesn't require a GUI
>https://theintercept.com/2015/12/28/recently-bought-a-windows-computer-microsoft-probably-has-your-encryption-key/
Every Linux kernel before 4.8 has a backdoor that allows root access from userspace.
>hyper-v performance
excellent. QEMU supports it via WHPX

>>6808
>and what exactly does it print out?
You can use device manager, which is MSC and can be accessed remotely and graphically from a client.
You can use WMI if you need a CLI lspci:
wmic path win32_pnpentity where "deviceid like '%PCI%'" get name,deviceid

this image confuses and enrages the ssh and x forwarding freetards

>>6816
winshit slows down and crashes after a week, I saw a wintard 11 box with broken shit that had to be rebooted after a week. NTOS fucking rots by being alive.
>>6819 this motherfucker clearly never heard of soystemd or god forbid /var/log. And at least userspace non root programs can't bring down your whole computer like they can in winigger.
>>6820
oh and WMI can go to hell I can't into that shit after dealing with fucking RISC assembly code

>>6821
it's like VNC or whatever macintrash Wayland uses for X forwarding. Coal, still slow and unusable, unlike SSH

>>6821
umm wintoddlerbros??

>>6817
>muh hurd
gnu doesnt rely on hurd, you can slap lunix or openBSD kernels on top of it and it'll just work if the kernel supports your hardware
>microshaft enforces signed drivers
lol wintoddlers btfo, imagine not being able to write your own drivers or to modify them
>muh filter drivers
>you need a whole new driver
apply patches, recompile kernel (or insert module), and youre good
>unix is case sensitive
this is a good thing for file names, but a very bad thing for commands
all commands on unix (that i know of) are lower case, while winkike doesnt care and just Slaps RandomUpper_Case bullshit and underlines in between whenever it feels like it
i'll remember to name my files file, File, FILE, etc... when im packing a tarball next time to prevent wintoddlers from unpacking it
>durr hurr dwm is the wintoddler wm
the only DWM we care about is the suckless wm, the average wintoddler doesnt even know what a WM is
>xmodmap
no, i meant to say xrandr, but xmodmap is another good example
can you remap \ (or <) on ISO keyboards (the key between shift and z) to a super/win key?
can you swap esc and capslock?
i don't think so.
>autohotkey
whats that again?
>debatable
show me a single better irc client then
>its far better and more powerful
its not
>all people call python awk sed perl etc from bash
bash is meant to be used to stitch and pipe together different commands, but calling perl/python is retarded.
>muh real vga driver
far less shit than virtualcucks, but yes it could be better
>forking gnu is evil according to stallman
i forked gnu and fucked around to fix some things that annoyed me, so what?
if stallman didnt want this to happen he should've made it proprietary, i haven't seen any political messages in manpages, but that'd be based to do because it pisses trannies off so they want him gone
fun fact, most of the people who signed the open letter against stallman were "open sores" trannies and not even FSF members, and never worked with stallman
even trannies in the FSF wanted him to stay, even the ones that hated him like francis rowe (aka "leah rowe")
>use this and that terminal, no you need to hack around and change this and that in a pre-configured proprietary binary operating system, no you cant use the defaults or something, its le open sores ok??
yes open sores is bullshit, what did you expect?
>uptime
not bad for a proprietary abandonware operating system!
>redhat does most kernel development
now look at what exactly they do
>gayland
>pukeaudio
>kikewire
>guhnome gtk/qt troonshit
>proprietary blobs everywhere you look
>vanilla lunix is almost 40% proprietary blobs at this point
>>6818
>page file
but where does it say how to make one?
pic rel explains how to, and this is just mental illness, on GNU you run mkswap something something and swapon, thats it.
>its not a gui despite its name
oh i confused it with vscope
>qemu does not support it
support what, hyper-v?
the other chud said it does support it, so wintoddlers ARE stuck with virtualcucks and vmware?
>>6819
>logs eating up the entire hard drive
kek cron exists for a reason, clean them up chud!
>centralized logging system
does it?
GNU+systemd+linux+dbus+udev has systemd/journalctl
>it doesnt require a gui
can you just run make and make install to compile and install it, and automate this without writing shit for 2 hours?
winglows is too hard to use for being productive if you do anything other than run a gui and a web browser
>muh backdoor
you mean vulnerability, and you only have to worry about that if you run proprietary garbage and rely on sandboxing to keep it in ring 3
no sandbox is bullet proof, and if proprietary software WANTS to, it WILL find a way from ring 3 to ring 0.
i compile my kernel without bullshit sandboxing like SOYLinux or "app"armor because theyre just backdoors to make people rely on "sandboxing", but end up giving proprietary shitware root access anyway just like this vulnerability in lunix <4.8
>>6820
>wmic path win32_pnpentity where "deviceid like '%PCI%'" get name,deviceid
kek, this is what i meant by "the syntax is sheer mental illness".
on GNU you type `lspci` and thats it
or cat out shit in /proc/bus/pci if you don't want to use the hecking GNU because its LE BAD and busybox is LE GOOD or something.
>>6821
ssh is all you need, and GNU can use RDP just fine
in fact, even freetard distros have freerdp in their repos
>>6823
its a gui so its coal yes, but its far less laggier than X11 forwarding or VNC because half of the shit (text, graphics, etc) is rendered client side instead of server side, sending raw video data over the network

>>6825
oh, RDP protocol does render shite client side? I see JPEG and I immediately think sending entire bitmaps. IIRC X forwarding is the one that renders shit client side, I never use remote GUIs anyways cause of how they're so slow it's pretty much a novelty ability

>>6822
>it rots by being alive
GEEEG
>has never heard of /var/log
i think what he meant is all the different shit that doesnt use soystemdick for some reason, like dmesg
but yes, all of it is thrown into /var/log
if some guitard pajeetware saves your logs in ~/.local/share, thats your problem, but functional software stores them in /var/log/.
>RISC asm
you suffer from temporary braindamage, please take a break from computers until you recovered
>>6830
yes, rdp renders shit client side, unlike vnc and X11 forwarding
actually im not sure about X11 forwarding, but VNC does send JPEG'd compressed video data.
X11 forwarding has bad performance doe, that might as well be caused by rendering shit client side, or just my potato computers
having an X server and client on the same machine works perfectly fine for whatever reason...
>theyre a novelty
true, 90% of my work is done in a CLI
literally the only thing i use a gui for is videogames, shitposting on the sharty and matrix (will soon be CLI as well, hopefully), and watching videos/movies/tv-shows

>>6822
>RISC assembly code
First, RISC is reduced instruction and reduced addressing modes, it's easy to learn. Second, there is no RISC assembly code. Did you mean RISC-V? The so-called "open source" architecture even though HiFive doesn't release their VHDL source code? x86, PowerPC, and SPARC are also open source by that definition.
>NOOO I CAN'T UNDERSTAND SQL-LIKE SYNTAX
issue between chair and screen
>wintard 11 box with broken shit that had to be rebooted after a week
Maintain your system dumbass.
>/var/log
Not a centralized Event Manager. Fills up your entire hard drive with nonsense if you don't set a cron job to clear it all.
>soystemd
Yeah we both know that's trash.
>userspace non root programs can't bring down your whole computer
Granular control in group policy for which users and groups can shutdown the computer (picrel).
>it's like VNC or whatever
No it's remote GDI. It doesn't just send a framebuffer over like VNC or effectively X11 (unless everything you are using is Motif). It's very efficient.
>>6821
Doesn't have good GDI acceleration.
>gnu doesnt rely on hurd
Explain what a GNU driver refers to then?
>imagine not being able to write your own drivers or to modify them
You can write your own drivers and MS provides sample code. Download the DDK.
>apply patches, recompile kernel
Go lookup what a filter driver is and does before you act like a retard.
>average wintoddler doesnt even know what a WM is
Because the average computer user is not an autist that needs to know what a WM is. Why should boomer bob who is working on an Excel spreadsheet need to know how to configure a WM?
>can you remap \ (or <) on ISO keyboards (the key between shift and z) to a super/win key?
Yes use MSKLC or AHK.
>show me a single better irc client then
mIRC obviously.
>but calling perl/python is retarded
But calling awk isn't?
>far less shit than virtualcucks, but yes it could be better
No virtualbox has blinking text support, unlike QEMU.
>but that'd be based to do because it pisses trannies off
Stallman supports trannies (https://stallman.org/articles/genderless-pronouns.html). Stallman threw a tard fit over XEmacs (https://www.xemacs.org/About/XEmacsVsGNUemacs.html). He put in an abortion message in the abort manpage, against the wishes of the devs (https://lwn.net/Articles/770966/). He also claims that he supports freeze peach but then campaigns for removing OAN, FOX, etc. from TV because he doesn't like them. He is a jew communist hypocrite.
>doesn't know how to manage page file in windows
picrel
>kek cron exists for a reason, clean them up chud!
Ah yes, it being retarded is a feature.
>the other chud said it does support it, so wintoddlers ARE stuck with virtualcucks and vmware?
You could easily google the answer and see that QEMU supports Hyper-V.
>muh backdoor
No clearly according to GNUTards all vulns are actually backdoors put there by the NSA.

>>6834
>did you mean RISC-V
yes
>so called open sores
RISC-V is a meme, its an ""open sores"" architecture but most implementations are proprietary so there is no difference other than you paying x5 the price and getting potato performance and barely any software compatibility
>i dont understand sql like syntax
sql is soy, use file trees like a white man
>maintain your shit
wintoddlers have to let M$ do this for them
>N-NOT A CENTRALIZED EVENT MANAGER!!
systemd
>trash
you literally shill windows...
motif is based btw
>whats a gnu driver
a driver for the GNU operating system, or one of the kernels that is being slapped on top of it
>you can write your own drivers for M$
didnt you just say it only accepts signed drivers?
>but muh filter drivers
something nobody needs, at least not on unix...
>why should boomer bob know how to configure a wm
boomers know more about computers than zoomers doe
>yes you can remap the keys
its over, i can't use this to BTFO wintoddlers, how sad
>mirc
proprietary useless malware
>calling awk is retarded
no its not
>muh blinking text doe
virtualcucks has a terrible vga bios, its absolute garbage
>stallman supports trannies
he just wrote there that singular "they" doesn't exist, trannies SEETHE about this

>@c Put in by rms. Don't remove.
>@cartouche
>@strong{Future Change Warning:} Proposed Federal censorship regulations
>may prohibit us from giving you information about the possibility of
>calling this function. We would be required to say that this is not an
>acceptable way of terminating a program.
>@end cartouche
this is based doe, i dont see why trannies are seething about it
>tv LE BAD
thats true tho, theyre brainlet republican bullshit news for NPCs
>he doesnt know how to manage a page file in winglows
how do you do this with a command on a server where you don't have a GUI?
>durr hurr retarded
im sure systemd also has a feature to delete logs that are N days old
>jewgle the answer
i don't use jewgle
>all vulnerabilities are backdoors
true, so dont run proprietary shitware
mitigations=off

>>6838
>RISC-V is a meme
keyed gnunigger

>>6834
or Arm, or PowerPC, or any of the other ones that are a pain in the ass to actually program in
>nOIT A CORNTALKIZED MANOAG
what's wrong with setting up a cron job? it does what *you* told it to
>cope policy
I meant crash, dumbass
>SQL syntax
I've never seen a MySQL with that kind of tarded bullshit
>maintain your system
nigger this is stock, windows is just unstable garbage

>>6838
>sql is soy, use file trees like a white man
this will be slow as shit, and you can only have so many files in a directory before grep or whatever your querying utility is starts to buckle.
use sqlite, its made by white men and is perhaps even more reliable than the filesystem (45 million lines of tests, with 100% coverage)

this thread is what happens when aint nobody been around to bully yall ???

>>6847
do ya use a macbook

>>6838
>sql is soy, use file trees like a white man
No, file trees suck
>wintoddlers have to let M$ do this for them
How dare the operating system do its job!
>systemd
Most software doesn't use systemd for logging. Just dumps log files everywhere.
>a driver for the GNU operating system
So you use Hurd? Because you mentioned GNU drivers. Kernels have drivers, not userspace software. GNU is slapped ontop of Linux, not the other way around.
>didnt you just say it only accepts signed drivers?
By default. If you attach a debugger then signing is disabled (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/install/installing-an-unsigned-driver-during-development-and-test). You should know this.
>something nobody needs, at least not on unix...
https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-hardware/drivers/ifs/about-file-system-filter-drivers
>calling an entire extra programming language to do string manipulation is actually a good thing.
No it isn't.
>virtualcucks has a terrible vga bios
How so?
>stallman supports trannies
He does. He believes in "non-binary" genders.
>tv LE BAD
Censorship is good then. Also, read the GNU manifesto. Stallman wants all software to be owned by the federal government through the NSF and nobody gets money to develop software unless the NSF decides they do. Also he supports an autistic software tax. So all software according to Stallman should be funded by the US Federal Government and you should be forced to pay for it. But Windows is bad because it costs money.

>Suppose everyone who buys a computer has to pay x percent of the price as a software tax. The government gives this to an agency like the NSF to spend on software development.

>mitigations=off
Enable vulnerabilities to solve vulns, smartest gnu tard.
>>6834
>what's wrong with setting up a cron job? it does what *you* told it to
Because I don't want to set up a cron job for each individual application that creates log files to remove the oldest events from the log.
>I meant crash, dumbass
unprivileged software cannot call KeBugCheck.
>I've never seen a MySQL with that kind of tarded bullshit
select, like, where?
>nigger this is stock, windows is just unstable garbage
So then because Gannoo Systemd Linux Apache Nginx doesn't automatically delete log files STOCK or support a bunch of things STOCK, it's unstable garbage. Got it.

>>6846
sql is still soy, you use databases when you have massive sets of data but NOT if you have 2000 or so files/entries
>whoite men
the only database i would work with (and would pick if i need a database) is postgresql
>>6847
>frfr ong ngl shie nigu
>>6850
he does

>>6853
SQL-like syntax for WMI, there isn't a SQL server in the background.

>>6852
>file trees LE BAD
>you VILL use ze bloat when you don't need it!
>do its job
you mean spy on you and tell you what to do?
>just dumps log files everywhere
it dumps logs into /var/log, as intended
if you run shit with soystemdick you get stdout
>you use hurd
i tried hurd actually, and it sucks
but i dont use 'lunix' either
>gnu is slapped on top of lunix
explain pic rel then
>you vill use ze debugger to disable signing enforcement
this is retarded
>you should know this
i dont use proprietary operating systems, i don't know this
>its a good thing
awk isnt really a language, calling python or perl is retarded.
>how so
one word, performance.
go try to run TempleOS in it, it heavily relies on the VGA bios and will absolutely suck in virtualcucks.
it runs perfectly fine in qemu, and even better in vmware but thats proprietary
>gender
gender is made up, i don't believe in that shit
its like believing in a random religion without proof of anything
we jews have evidence that god exists and loves us, and trick you stupid goyim into believing in a jew on a stick kek
>censorship is good then
yes, look at north korea or china, now look at 'merica
this is what ""freedom"" does to you
>windows is bad because it costs money
no, windows is bad because its broken malicious overcomplicated garbage
>smartest gnu turd
i like my 20% extra performance, imagine wasting it for "sandboxing" proprietary shitware when it could just echo something into your .bashrc to grab your password and rootkit you
just dont run malware, problem solved
>wah wah i dont want to set up a cron job for each software
set one up to clean everything in /var/log thats older than N days then
you can do the same for caches too
alias lscache='find ~/.cache -type f -atime +6 -print0 | du -h -c --files0-from=- | sort -h'
alias rmcache='find ~/.cache -type f -atime +6 -delete'
>unpr-ACK!
vid rel
>muh stock
because its not a "stock" operating system, GNU is a DIY operating system that actually gives you a choice.

>>6857
windows users....

>>6855
...why??

>>6861
what wm are you using?

>>6866
sway

>>6866
or if you meant the wm in the videos, thats motif but theyre not mine, i would never run proprietary operating systems, not even in a VM because they don't guarantee hecking sandboxing, especially without any mitigations/SOYLinux/"app"armor bullshit.

>>6861
if you don't run neither loonix nor hard the what do you use?

>>6863
because its a straight forward way to query for information?

>>6870
linux-libre, custom hacked together shit, but i called it 'ganoo-slash-lunix-libre'
>>6871
no its retarded for simple shit like this

>>6861
GNUtards are like
>alias lscache='find ~/.cache -type f -atime +6 -print0 | du -h -c --files0-from=- | sort -h'
but then complain that WMI is complicated.

>>6874
find me the vendors of all ACPI devices on your systems as a list.

>>6861
>we jews have evidence
Yet freetards will claim everything has backdoors even though it has never been demonstrated. Stallman wants the Federal Government to have complete control over what software is made.

>>6879
this is simple scripting, wmi is complicated.
>>6881
use acpidump
>>6882
i was fucking around with soyware and couldnt be bothered to compile outdated ffmpeg versions with 200 outdated deps manually, sorry
>>6884
only for you stupid goyim yes

>>6888
>use this 3rd party program even tho you can get acpidump and lspci for windows 3rd party
?????
>only for you stupid goyim yes
No, you WILL pay for GNU software or be sent to jail for tax fraud by the GNUstapo.

>>6893
>3rd party
???
>you vill pay for gnu software
this literally goes against the GPL

>>6896
No, you see, it doesn't because it's a tax. You aren't paying for the software, you can get the software free with source, but you have to pay money to the government when you buy a computer to support software development. There will be no gratis software according the GNU manifesto. All GNU software will be paid for by the state through the taxpayer. Of course, stallman says that you could get a tax credit for donating to a project of your choice, but this is still not gratis, you are being forced to pay for software. And what happens when everyone figures out they can just donate to themselves to get the tax credit. Well, the tax credit will be removed and you will be forced to pay for GNU. Why GNU? Well, Stallman envisions that the NSF has a department that he will run called the GNU department where GNU will be funded. But of course we will be mining asteroids and living in fully automated, scarcity, gay space communism according to Stallman. You will own nothing and you will be happy.

It's all in the GNU Manifesto: https://www.gnu.org/gnu/manifesto.en.html

>>6901
even doe i evade taxes

>>6903
You will be sent to the GNUlag for refusing to pay your GNU/Tax.

>>6905
oh no!

This thread is a perfect example of why I will never use troonix and have to deal with their awful community.

Why use Windows 10 LTSC just to have outdated stuff?

>>6754
more importantly
>the file picker has thumbnails

gnome, in the year 2023

>>6780
>list your PCI devices, USB devices, and your firmware version/type each with one command
here nigger, in Powershell:
>Get-WmiObject -Query "SELECT * FROM Win32_PnPEntity WHERE DeviceID LIKE 'PCI%'" ; Get-WmiObject -Query "SELECT * FROM Win32_PnPEntity WHERE DeviceID LIKE 'USB%'" ; Get-WmiObject -Class Win32_BIOS

AND YOU DON"T EVEN HAVE TOT INSTALL A BUNCH OF RETARDED DEPENDENCIES LIKE ON LINUX

>>6860
hes right however

>81 replies
kek

>>6932
no you dont understand i need to install libtard-dev and 50 other dependencies from source so I can install acpilister-ng2000 from Troonjak Ack's github so I can list PnP. This is the only way.

>>6930
even my command line file manager can display previews kek

>>6932
>all this just to replace lspci, lsusb, and dmidecode
>B-BUT MUH DEPENDENCIES
show me one system without lspci and lsusb pre installed, because on every system i set up it gets installed automatically
>>6952
>B-B-BUT DEPENDENCIES!1!!!1!
winkike is 60 gigs in size while GNU doesn't include everything you could ever think about

>>6963
~ $ lspci
The program lspci is not installed. Install it by executing:
pkg install pciutils, after running pkg install root-repo
~ $ lsusb
No command lsusb found, did you mean:
Command lsb in package lrzsz
~ $ uname
Linux
~ $

>>6929
my file picker isnt laggy guhome mouse click clock bullshit and it has thumbnails
it was written by a single person in about a week

>>6965
take your meds, what garbage operating system is that?
is that a shitty freeBSD copypaste or some shit?
lmao

>>6972
Why yes, it's, Android, the most widely used Linux distro!

>>6965
you don't even have a tty, of course this toy operating system made for babies that cant even compile itself doesn't have basic functionality, i didn't expect anything else.

>>6976
Traditionally, the Client/Server Runtime Subsystem (CSRSS) has been responsible for managing console windows on the Windows NT family of operating systems.[7] In Windows 7, CSRSS spawns one conhost.exe for each console window, to manage it. In Windows 8 and later, the console apps spawn their conhost.exe processes directly. This change has both security and usability implications. While CSRSS runs in a highly privileged security context, each conhost.exe runs in the same security context as the console app. In addition, in Windows 7, this change enabled console windows to have the features of the Aero Glass theme.[8]

On Windows NT and Windows CE, the screen buffer uses four bytes per character cell: two bytes for character code, two bytes for attributes. The character is then encoded in a 16-bit subset of Unicode (UCS-2).[9] For backward compatibility, the console APIs exist in two versions: Unicode and non-Unicode. The non-Unicode versions of APIs can use code page switching to extend the range of displayed characters (but only if TrueType fonts are used for the console window, thereby extending the range of codes available). Even UTF-8 is available as "code page 65001"[10] (displaying only from the UCS-2 subset of full Unicode[citation needed]).

As of the Windows 10 October 2018 update, the Windows Console has full Unicode support.[11]

>>7010
>wintoddler terminal didnt have unicode until 2018
>wintoddler terminal cant render text at 5fps
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/4129
https://github.com/microsoft/terminal/issues/10362
GEEEEEG

>>7101
>>wintoddler terminal didnt have unicode until 2018
wintoddler terminal didnt exist until 2018

>>7117
holy oldnigger

>>7101
The 2018 update added support for non-Plane 1 unicode characters. That is, characters that cannot be represented as a wchar_t. Console and the rest of NT has always supported UCS-2.

windows 11 used 9.5 gigabytes of ram for one tab of chrome and the operating system on my laptop before I switched to ubuntu mate